Naked Comfort
I don't think women realize that men are simple. All we want is someone we can come home to at night and be comfortable with when we are naked. A woman that laughs at our jokes and says "thank you" when we do something nice. A good mother to our children. Someone who understands that sometimes we are insensitive, but at the end of the day we chose them out of millions of other women to spend the rest of our life with and for a man that is a nearly impossible task.
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I have a friend at work named Sandy, I think every woman should be more like her. She never complains. She is always extremely appreciative of anything that you do for her. She always delights in the little things no matter how insignificant and she is very thoughtful. When you are with her you can be yourself and she makes you feel good about yourself.
On this note, and because everyone seems to be talking about relationships around Valentines Day, I decided to make a list of what guys do and don't want when it comes to women. (for me Christian is a given so I won't elaborate on that here)
Wants:
Appreciative - If a man does something nice for you, be excited and tell him thank you or else you might not ever get anything nice again and it will be your own fault.
Responsive - if a man shows interest in something, take note, this is something NOT to be taken lightly. Women ALWAYS seem to underestimate the interests of a man. We CANNOT be changed in this department. We WILL choose our car, video game, sports team, internet - over you so the best thing to do is show interest in what we love to do. (I am using a bit of hyperbole here, maybe poorly, but I am just trying to make a point) So maybe he hates going shopping with you, when was the last time you worked on the car with him? If a guy you are with spends too much time doing something you don't like, then you better get out early, because the likelihood of him giving it up is VERY slim.
Attractive - for men all attraction is different but I think we all want someone that we can be proud of. Take care of yourself. Sometimes women let themselves go because they think, "Why bother, I am too - fat, ugly, short, tall, skinny, etc." Personally I like a woman that is put together, I thought Star Jones was beautiful even when she was overweight because she was always put together and she was always smiling - I bet she smelled good too.
Fun - I should have put this one first. Who doesn't like to have fun? When you get past all the physical part of relationships the most important part is fun.
Reciprocity - if a guy is spending his hard earned money on you, then do something nice for him every now and then. This girl I used to date would rub my shoulders and massage my back at random times and I loved it. It was the little things like that that made me love her. (unfortunately she broke up with me or else we would probably be married now)
Don't Wants:
Harsh, Abrasive, Controlling, Bossy, Manipulative - the biggest turn off for me is a bossy woman. There have been girls in my past that I thought were very pretty and very attractive and they turned me off forever by being too bossy or too harsh. This is important not just in relationships, but in life - chill out psycho.
Boring - Have some goals, have some interests other than shopping and Desperate Housewives, be interesting.
Insecurity - If we are with you, then we WANT to be with you. Don't stress about the relationship and if you are not getting what you need out of the relationship to make you feel secure then talk to him and if he still doesn't change, then it might be best to get out of it. You'll feel better for being the one that was strong enough to end it and your new found confidence will make you more attractive.
Promiscuity - No one wants a toy that everyone else has already played with. Wrap that package up nicely and we'll wait to see what is inside.
The bad news for women is that men rarely change, women I think are more capable of adjusting, and so we expect them to - we expect them to conform to us. It isn't fair, I didn't make up the rules, I didn't give us X&Y chromosomes, I am just stating the facts.
Edited: 11:12 AM I think everyone is mis-interpreting my closing line. I probably should have worded it better... My point is that I like to dance, and I am not going to stop dancing - Ever. I am going to marry someone that likes to dance. I like to sing. I won't stop singing, it is who I am. I want someone to like my singing and if they don't like it, then I won't marry them either. I am not saying that you shouldn't change things or mature, or grow with your mate - that is just crazy, what I am saying is pick someone that you are compatible with, not someone that you think you can make compatible with you.
Happy Valentines Day weekend!
35 Comments:
Yeah, good call, Eddo. I sleep in the buff (TMI?) and think The Missus fits all of what you've written.
We're going out to lunch today since I'm off. We're going to pretend it's Valentine's Day to beat the crowds. You know it's her day when she's also able to get me to a store or two.
Eddo, I think you may get into some trouble from women for writing some of this! ;) Still, I love the brutal honesty.
I have some thoughts:
1. "We WILL choose our car, video game, sports team, internet - over you so the best thing to do is show interest in what we love to do." This is disappointing. You outline a list of things you (and I use "you" in the loosest term possible - more like "men in general") want from a woman, and yet you seem unwilling to make sacrifices for that woman. Why choose a car over a woman? That's like saying I'm going to choose a pair of pants over Roger. It's just silly! However, the last sentence of that paragraph (Want: Responsive) is undeniably true. WOMEN, TAKE NOTE.
2. Your "chill out psycho" comment in Don't: Harsh, Abrasive, etc. MADE ME CHUCKLE. Even though I think that is a stupid word, because it reminds me of a guy I dated once that I met at church camp, and his name was Chuck. We didn't last for long because I always had to pay when went out on dates. For both of us.
3. Don't: Insecurity. This paragraph surprised me. Just ending the relationship? Not talking about why she feels insecure to see if there is something you can both do differently to make it work? I think you should ALWAYS TALK before breaking up!
Still, after pointing these things out, I still appreciate that you wrote this entry, if only because you are being raw and honest, and it's good to be inside a man's mind (if only for a day!).
Also, maybe don't publish this entry under "Marry me." ;)
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Fred - There is no such thing as "TMI" in the blog world! ha ha.
Happy Valentines Day to you and your wife, I love it when couples have awesome relationships and it sounds like you and THE MISSUS are one of them couples.
Jes, I totally meant to say "TALK about it with him and if you still feel insecure then break up" The phrase was in my head, but it never came out on paper and I will go back and amend that because you are totally correct.
Also, the brutal honesty of number 1 I think is necessary. Too often I see women who think that once they get married that suddenly their man is going to stop doing the things he loves. With men we want our cake and we want to eat it too and we want our wife to either enjoy the cake with us or to stop nagging us about it - cause we ain't going to stop eating it!
it just seems anti-you. it has a bit of attitude: what happened to compromising in relationships?
it seems unbending - even your last comment to me about having your cake and eating it too. personally, i can attest that this mindset is not true of all men. and honestly, i don't think it is true of you either.
though i agree that people are who they are, and 90% of the time will not change, i don't think you're the kind of man that fits into this category.
i just re-read my last comment. sorry about how redundant it is. :)
Maybe you don't know me as well as you thought you did...
You'll notice that my Marry Me section hasn't been updated in a while... I guess I am not feeling like myself lately - perhaps a bit unmarriageable. I don't think it has anything to do with Cat and I splitting up either, I think it has everything to do with the fact that I am 30 and I am being a little more truer to who I am - less x chromosome and more y. Even my mom lately pointed out that I wasn't acting as excited about something that I should have been really excited about and I tried to express to her that I am chilling out as I get older - I don't think she liked it... but it was the truth.
Eddo, I am sad. You're TOTALLY marriageable. (is that a word?)
At the risk of sounding preachy or counselor-y, perhaps subconciously it does have something to do with a combination of your recent relationship and your recent birthday.
but to me, it seems like this makes you sound like you are hardening - becoming resolute in a stereotype of manhood as perceived by the world.
i think a lot of the things you wrote about men and relationships are accurate - i'm just not convinced that they are accurate about you.
perhaps some ben & jerry's will make you feel better? ;)
this was very good. I loved the "chill out psycho" comment! Ha ha ha. Lots of girls need to listen up to that one!
Perhaps you are right Jes. I think I DO need some Ben and Jerry's - I love PHISH FOOD!!
Eddo,
Thank-you, Thank-you, Thank-you! I could not have put it any better myself. If I am with you it's because I want to be with you. It is amazing how taken for granted people (both men and women) can take each other. We are so caught up with things we usually miss the good thing that is right in front of us.
i will have loads of phish food available at our next game night. please come prepared. :)
C-Rev you changed your photo - hilarious!
And you are right - we do miss what we have right in front of us.
Yeah Jes!
Eddo,
I'd add one more thing. It's ok to have an opinion. You don't have to like or dislike every little thing we do. We won't get mad if you disagree on personal tastes.
Wow, Eddie. I didn't think I would ever hear you say, "It's my way or the highway." Everything you have listed here is basically the woman giving in to everything the guy wants and sucking it up and liking it.
I agree that guys are going to do their thing but where is the give on your side? Relationships have to be give/take, compromise and conversation.
Don't let your age get you down. Everything will happen in it's time.
And you are completely marriageable.
Hmmm... I think you misinterpret me and my intentions Heather. I think girls go around with this image of what guys are or should be in their minds and it is unrealistic.
I think relationships are all about compromise, give and take, but there are certain things that just aren't going to change all that much with guys.
My dad always said, "relationships are like a checking account, you can only take out what you put in."
And I think I am marriageable, I just find that lately the older I get the less I want to be married. So much so that I probably need to remove my "Marry Me" section... at least until I change my mind.
alternatively, women will always stay the same, too. we'll always want to change someone, to bend them to our way of thinking.
so, see? we're not so different after all!
What about "do good in secret, and He who knows what is done is secret will reward you. If you do good to be seen by men, I tell you truly, you already have your reward."
It just seems that this post misses the unconditional nature of true love/service/sacrifice. I know that I tend to choose my fun over my wife's service, but I aspire to change that.
I want to be changing everyday. I also do not want to change, and coasting is very tempting to me.
I think that choosing and committing is not impossible for men, but we are not encouraged to have that kind of integrity anymore. So it is easy to make the excuse "that's just how God made me; I can't help it."
Well I cry BS. We can help it. Any negative habit or behavior can be changed...not by the woman, but certainly with her help. She is not to nag, sure, but she is not to remain silent for our crap either.
Completing partners don't find unpleasant things, then cut and run. They work to encourage and sharpen with love and respect.
Sort of rambling, but you caught me in my current situation with my wife. Trying to love her like I know I ought to. Just been thinking a lot about what that means.
She comes before me.
Well, you hit it on the nail head. W.F. Harley's book "His Needs, Her Needs," outlines these exactly. You're textbook.
I heard once, "Men want a woman who won't change and women want a man who will." Neither will get what they want.
I thought it interesting you said, " No one wants a toy that everyone else has already played with." There are tons of men who say that, but want a "vamp" when they get married. It's a paradox.
I can tell you women want:
- Family man
- Emotionally Available
- Good with kids
- Dependable worker
- Honest
BTW - I miss nude sleeping. Kids destroy that.
~Jef
You are right Jes! Women don't want to change either and so that is part of my point here, find someone that you don't need changing! :)
I fell hard for a girl who is now married and I wouldn't have changed anything about her. She is still perfection... I told her that I loved her, she didn't reciprocate my feelings, her words, not mine, but even with that we remained friends and close friends. I don't think I could have been the husband she was looking for, but she was everything I ever wanted. The one thing I liked most about her was that she made me feel good about me when I was with her. She was literally like sunshine in a cold room - everyone was drawn to her.
I think everyone is mis-interpreting my closing line.
I probably should have worded it better...
My point is that I like to dance, and I am not going to stop dancing - Ever. I am going to marry someone that likes to dance.
I like to sing. I won't stop singing, it is who I am. I want someone to like my singing and if they don't like it, then I won't marry them either.
I am not saying that you shouldn't change things or mature, or grow with your mate - that is just crazy, what I am saying is pick someone that you are compatible with, not someone that you think you can make compatible with you.
Eddie, I whole-heartedly agree with your last comment. You need to be compatible!
Well, my husband has changed so much since we dated. And that, btw, was a huge chaotic, catastrophe. He does appreciate that I am secure in myself...my standards are set high with him. If he crosses the line, we deal with it completely. He learns his lesson and doesn't think about doing it again (same for me, too.) I just refuse to be dysfunctional the way we were before. With kids, safety and security is so important. And it is so important for themto feel safe and secure in their own family.
I have two girlfriends right now who are in verbally abusive relationships.They think because it is notphysical, it is really not abuse. But it crushes their spirits, and the spirits of their children. My friends daughter said this "My heart is confused right now," She is only 4 years old. I thought, I don't want my kids's hearts to ever feel confused.
Oh, and he still treats me like we were in our honeymoon phase. That's important. He truly cherishes me. I need to do more of that myself. What a great man I have.
Thankyou for this post. It has made me want to thank my husband for being, well, himself.
I am with you.
This is not from a woman's point of view, it's one-sided because you are only speaking of one side of the issue. Very well done, at that.
Best rule of thumb in my 12½ years of married bliss:
"Never count the compromises you do for your spouse, always count the ones your spouse does for you."
that and we laugh together...A LOT!
Good post Eddo!!
PS Chocolate rum choc chip cheesecake recipe on my blog. It's FABULOUS!!
Ditto to everything here, in reverse. A great list, hon! Albeit a brutally honest one...
I've known some guys that were exceptions, but they were b-o-r-i-n-g. It seems you can't have it all.
...still, in the right relationship, both parties are usually pretty willing to give in to each other... at least in theory...
In marriage I don't feel that Chelli and I have changed our ways. We have compromised in the since that I don't come home and turn on the TV or play XBox as if I were single. We spend quality time together cooking and cleaning dishes and then on the weekends I have my "me time" after she goes to bed and I stay up late like I always did before and play games or watch Adult Swim. The only thing I have changed is how much and when I do things that I've always done before.
Eddo,
I'm glad that you made this post, you have alot of good points.
But I have to agree with your friend Jess- you don't appear to be yourself. I'll definitely be praying that God takes this time to renew you. I believe that sometimes we go through periods in our lives that causes us to have identity crisis'-which is why we can't look outwardly for assurance, but rather, UP :)
Now, while I believe that you accurately pin-pointed some of the things that the softer sex are guilty of, please don't forget exceptions to the rule:
Not every woman in the world desires a man so that she can change them:I am not, nor have I ever been a woman that had the desire to change a man, that is God's job, not mine. Legitimate flaws (in any person)cannot be changed without God,which is why it takes 3 to make a relationship work, not two.
I haven't had a 'real' relationship in five years, ever since a broken engagement in 2001. It took a lot time to heal over that, despite the fact that it was a mutual break-up. I realize now, how very fortunate I was to not have married. It wouldn't have lasted because we lost our balance of God in the relationship equation (that, and there was alot of spiritual maturing to do on both of our parts).
In hind sight (sp?), there is nothing (other than our personal relationships with the Lord) that I would have ever changed about Rodney. I was very much in love with the man, all his quirks, and "flaws" made him who he was. Changing those things about him would be like designing someone else, and that person wouldn't have been Rodney, it wouldn't have been the man I fell in love with in the first place.
People evolve over time, I know: their tastes, likes, dislikes, even physical personage will change. But who they are at the core never does, and if you fall in love with that, then I firmly believe that you'll never desire to alter them.
P.S. Ben and Jerry's "Phish Food" is my favorite ice cream in the world, too!
I hope they don't retire it, I'll be a very sad girl.
Did you know that Ben & Jerry have a real cemetary for when they do retire a flavor? I'm going to visit it when I hit New England on vacation next week (I'll try and take pictures and post them!)
P.P.S Sorry this comment was so long! haha
Hey there...as always, a well written, honest post. Sorry I've missed it so much recently!
I have a confession to make too...(maybe the reason I've avoided your blog???)but I don't think I can admit it here...
I run from all of those things, but the basic element is important. Never pick a man, or a woman for "what you can make out of him/her" The most important idea you express is that the person you first know is basically the person you will know at last.
The biggest weakness is the one thought that males think that women will change (it's easier or more expected) bleeeeeaah. Women don't change any more than men,AND IF YOU TRY TOO HARD TO CHANGE THEM. THEY GET EVEN. If the two of you are around each other enough, communicate enough, love enough both will change just a little-a little bit at a time. It took me the first forty years of marriage to figure that out. The last eight have been gravy. The biggest problem is that women, because it works with other women think that a hint is better than a straight out request, and most men think they are doing the thing when they just "say it". Neither is true. The biggest talk is to learn that women and men speak very different languges. Things really get good when you learn how to translate.
Good Post Eddo and True, True, True! However, it didn't bother me that you didn't get excited about your uh?? Promotion? Job? whatever you want to call it, I was just surprised that you weren't yourself, because I know you and you are very mellow right now, which is okay. You have waited a long time for this opportunity and seemed subdued about it, I wasn't sure if you were still in the phase of unbelief that it really happened or just being thankful to the Lord for the blessing He just gave you!
Things happen in life to change us and make us better people. You did hit the nail on the head, you have to be compatible with the person you want to marry, because there is little change as time goes on. More of a servants heart may evolve bwtn both parties, but both will basically stay the same. So you gotta make sure you love that person for who they are or you are in for alot of misery!!
See ya in the morning for breakfast!
You know Eddo, all women should read this. Men are so simple and women are so freakin complex!! It must be the hormones or something. We read so much into nothing and make ourselves miserable over nothing (or at least I do.)
I hope that I fit most of these "likes" for Uncle Joe....we have been married for almost 12 years and it is better than ever right now.
Thanks for the handbook!
well eddo: i think someone stepped on your toes. i'm wondering if you recently got criticized for singing, and dancing. i'm a reader between the liner's. that's just who i am. and i'm reading some pain in here, that maybe someone was critical of you, and hurt your feelings. i haven't been here in awhile, and didn't know you broke up with your girlfriend. all i remember was that you were totally loving hanging out with her.
so the observations from the people who know you, are matched with my observations of someone who doesn't know you, but remembers a different sort of slant to your previous writing. hang in there,
and is this woman from your work someone you can date? if you like her so much why don't you ask her out.
Very well said Eddo, as usual. It is really great to know what you want, and what you don't want, BEFORE you get married. Hang in there kiddo, the right one is out there for you. :)
I really like this template by the way. Another Eddo winner! :)
...oh and Eddo, if you get a chance, stop by my blog! I'm running a contest, and I think you'd be a shoe in!
Thanks!!!
Sorry I've missed your post. Haven't been in the blog world in a few days. I liked this post, your honesty, and your first paragraph especially.
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